How much is the decision to believe in God is reasonable?

The human mind leads to faith in the Creator, or, as it is sometimes said, faith in God contradicts the mind? Is it possible to come to the faith in the Creator on the basis of the mind? .. The apostles preached the gospel to the Gentiles. But Paul said that what could be known about God was revealed for them (pagans) … since God gave evidence of this in the world. Their conscience, which accuses them, and their thoughts, which justify one another, indicate that a person is responsible and knows that there will be a judgment of God. They know and understand this on the basis of the human mind. But they still do not know about the biblical revelation, do not know about Christ and the Church. That is, the mind leads to the realization of the Creator, and then everyone decides for himself: to accept the revelation of God, which is given in Jesus Christ in His Church, and which the apostles preached … or not to accept?

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  1. The presence of a mind in a person allows him to see a reasonable structure of the universe. The unreasonable monkey will not understand this, she can only use the reasonably arranged, but she cannot appreciate and admire him, for this he needs a human mind. Thus, it is the mind that allows you to see the “hand of God” in everything that surrounds us. And this is the most natural way to faith – through thousands of obvious evidence.

  2. There are two opinions: reasonable and not reasonable. We can easily find supporters of both opinions. I relate to the first: the decision to believe in God is reasonable, that is, based on conclusions, but not only on them. Apostle Paul takes an excuse from those who suppress the truth by untrue. What is this truth? That God is, what is he. Where did everyone have to find out? From the examination of the creations. “For His invisible, eternal power of His and deity, from creating the world through the examination of creations is visible, so that they are unrequited” (Rom. 1:20) Today we know many famous thinkers, scientists, poets, inventors who connected it. Your knowledge of the world with faith in the creator God. We know those who took advantage of this way of knowledge and were honest with them to the end. I did not hear from the Orthodox brothers and sisters such nonsense that faith in God contradicts the mind, and that for faith one should abandon the mind. At the same time, people of atheistic views, for some reason, often expect just such arguments from us. I believe that other people who believe in Christ are not particularly leaning on such arguments, not Orthodox. For what – I don’t know.

  3. There are two opinions: reasonable and not reasonable. We can easily find supporters of both opinions. I relate to the first: the decision to believe in God is reasonable, that is, based on conclusions, but not only on them. Apostle Paul takes an excuse from those who suppress the truth by untrue. What is this truth? That God is, what is he. Where did everyone have to find out? From the examination of the creations. “For His invisible, eternal power of His and deity, from creating the world through the examination of creations is visible, so that they are unrequited” (Rom. 1:20) Today we know many famous thinkers, scientists, poets, inventors who connected it. Your knowledge of the world with faith in the creator God. We know those who took advantage of this way of knowledge and were honest with them to the end. I did not hear from the Orthodox brothers and sisters such nonsense that faith in God contradicts the mind, and that for faith one should abandon the mind. At the same time, people of atheistic views, for some reason, often expect just such arguments from us. I believe that other people who believe in Christ are not particularly leaning on such arguments, not Orthodox. For what – I don’t know.

  4. The soul has a lot of strength, Elena. Reason, feeling and will. God gave everything – and moreover, that a person through the godly soul and its strength, through observation of nature, art, science, through reading the right books, has known God. Brah shows us that in its fullness and the fullness of its own and The Lord is known only in the Divine Eucharist. Here is good for our children, who from 8 days after birth participate in all the sacraments, listen to prayer, live in the miracle and silence of divine grace. And what can the fallen false mind? Investigated by various illusions and passions. As the great Avva Dorofei rightly said: “Anathema to me and my opinion.” But the main thing is that we need to remember the words of Christ: “No one comes to the Father, as soon as through me” and “No one can come to me if his father does not call for him My heavenly. “

  5. To believe or not, it depends on the picture of the human world, on the environment, on education. All the factors mentioned play a role. Especially if a person is inquisitive. Suppose that a scientific expedition landed on the island where the cannibal tribe lives, among scientists there was a Christian. The curious young cannibal, who decided to figure out who came to them, talked with him and, under his influence, adopted Christianity, because he knew nothing else, including the presence of distortions in the Bible. But this young man was intelligent, he simply knew little because he lived on an island that none of his fellow tribesmen had ever left

  6. If a person does not believe in himself, in his strength, his knowledge, his relatives and friends, then you can believe in God. But the decision to believe in God (or something else) has nothing to do with the mind. Rather, to emotions, soul. Any uncritical faith is not a rational act .. Rather, a consequence of experience, a feeling of hopeless situation, often great grief. But the gods are different. And impose certain obligations. Christianity with Christ and Jehovah is the observance of the commandments of the Bible. Islam is a life according to Sharia. Rodnevity is the dominance of values ​​such as family, genus, nature, cosmogony. Their values ​​and in Buddhism. Think before choosing.

  7. The knowledge of all mankind is very limited, and the region of the unknown is endless. Faith is needed and useful so that a person can form a holistic picture of the world from his disparate knowledge. In principle, for the formation of a holistic worldview, faith can be in any form, not necessarily faith in God. But it is reasonable to accept about the same faith as people around us – for better understanding, so as not to give rise to unnecessary, unnecessary conflicts.

  8. I don’t know how in the days of the apostles. But now KMK is the problem of the rational evidence of God is associated with a deliberate religious confusion. There are 2 different paradigms of God. “God-1”: this is the God-Cretaceous who created this world. “God-2” is the God-humanity, which is now in an embryonic form. Rational thinking considers God to be the paradigm “God-1.” The religion considers God to paradigm “God-2”. But he presents him as “God-1”, in order to avoid the devilish pride. “God-1” religion is not interesting. He is interesting to science, even if it proves or refutes it. The religions of love and worship are important to “God-2” in order to form God’s humanity. “God-2” is a dream. The dream does not need to be proved. It is only necessary to believe, hope (believe in the desired) and love (wish) it. Once the power of evolution gave us a dream: all of humanity is the only omnipotent being, then it should be realized. In nature, everything is advisable. Religion does not convince rationality. The evolution of consciousness is not rational MB. Religion cultivates faith, hope and love of the dream of universal universality.

  9. Only on the basis of reason can one come to the true faith of the true god of the Creator! As you can blame – the people of God, he was introduced as a kind of herd (cattle) of ordinary people who do not know about God but suffering and eagerly absorbing the word by such a traveling word pagans – as Some discharges of mankind: literally “pagans” are translated from ancient Greek as “peoples”, “tribes”. This word is τὰ ἔθνη (ethnē) – a plural from τό ἔθνος (ethnos) – “people”, “tribe”, “society”, (hence, for example, in the Russian language an adjective “ethnic”). Who can judge the people of God for his affairs only God – we all think that they are right in their faith – but no one can say with a hundred percent confidence that his faith is the most righteous – we all children want it or not all created in the image and the likeness of God and everything can be mistaken-but you can’t trample anyone for the apparent mistakes-but as it often happens-it is worth saying something not in the format of the topic as they are also pounced with accusations, but where is the faith that the faith of which Christ taught – where the humility has been taught by the holy fathers – and there is no trace of her, remember at least Seraphim of Sarov how he endured the hardships and trials of his faith – even when he was almost killed and then asked for their forgiveness before God and people – this is an example to follow !

  10. To be fighting, standing and defeating, we need to believe that the good forces of the Russian people did not run out, that God’s gifts were not impoverished, that his original goddesses still live in him, that this overshadowing will pass and the spiritual forces will be resurrected . Vera in God is the awareness of the Almighty of the Standard of Perfection, and the Vedasky God. The Vera in God is the path to God. The path to God is the attraction to the perfect, noble. The path to God is the way of honor, dignity, love and virtue. The path to God is the way to counteract evil designs and evil deeds.

  11. On practice. The evolving individual who has switched from “smart” to “rationality” no longer needs “faith in God”, in the understanding of this concept that we are accustomed today to today. He begins to consciously interact with him in practice: without prayers and petitions. Why believe in friendship, since do you make friends in God? It contradicts the mind? It does not so much contradict, as it limits, clamps in the narrow bippers that which is multi -sized and voluminous. Believing or not to believe -these are aspects and narrow extremes of the mind. For the start, it is quite acceptable. But this is good when you have a more unilateral approach like: “Lord, give me …” MGM. In such a paradigm, even “given” to a person is very difficult to see. The walls of “my” interfere. And closed “doors” at the level of rationality you do not need these fences of the walls. You communicate with God in a natural environment without clamping in dynamics and constant expansion.

  12. Faith in God is meaningless, the decision to believe in God is a set of words with concepts that are not interconnected.
    To believe God is a meaningful expression of emotional commitment to the covenant of God, that is, a person sees God, understands as the creator of the world, as his father and all people – brothers and sisters, and realizes his place and role in the current time, in society, in earthly biology.
    Resolved … Read more

  13. I am now writing an abstract for philosophy for my granddaughter. And I realized the mission of philosophy to pave the way for faith to those poor fellow, in whom the mind goes off scale and muffles faith.
    God is love. Because the problem is#1 Christianity is a fit of will. And love is voluntary subordination, the solution of this problem.
    Many people of the information era have one love- to satisfy an inquisitive mind, one … Read more

  14. Of course, reasonable. Is it not reasonable to hope for the immortality of the soul, the afterlife in paradise, ultimately get what did not have during his lifetime?
    In the same way, the lack of such a desire is also reasonable, he died -so he died and no problems at all. What he wanted to receive, and what he didn’t receive that he did not need, but only seems and imagines necessary. Eternal life is also tired outside … Read more

  15. Is it possible to come to the faith in the Creator on the basis of the mind? ..
    I watched Ashmanov’s interview on Aurora somehow. He is Orthodox, who does not know, and Aurora is a levoliberal resource. By the way, he was asked about faith. The meaning of the answer was that if a person wants to understand the structure of the world and he has the ability to think for this and the ability to think, he will certainly come to Orthodoxy.
    With me … Read more

  16. Perhaps I am mistaken, but the concept of faith in itself already says that this refers to the thinking of a person. To his mind. Of course, there is a quote in the Bible that demons believe and tremble, but who are demons and who are the angels? After all, he also called the human mind, gave definitions to these concepts. All that we see physically we will and is called. Without name we are nothing … Read more

  17. Question: “The decision to believe in God is reasonable. The human mind leads to faith in the Creator or, as is sometimes said – faith in God contradicts the mind.”
    Faith is a property of the mind (property of the soul) – the carrier of substantial properties.
    Ignorance gives rise to atheism:
    “It is necessary to understand it a little differently: let people of art do art, and not what others. When they do … Read more

  18. Monkeys also believe in certain things, but this is not connected with their subjective decision, but is associated with their reaction to objective factors. So a person-runs in supernatural under the influence of some circumstances, but not at all because he wants to believe. It is not possible to force yourself to believe in something, as well as not to believe. We believe that the day will come not because … Read more

  19. By asking the question you did not indicate the main thing – why? What is the goal to pursue a person who wants to believe in the creator God? Why does he need it?
    If a person expects to experience the same positive emotions that believers tell him about – to reasonably convince his brain of the existence of God.
    If a person wants to live in a society of fanatics-entertainers who cripple … Read more

  20. The path implies faith (that you will reach somewhere), the path cannot be endless: everything that has a beginning has an end. As a result, faith should turn into knowledge. Christianity is the path that should lead to knowledge, the goal is to combine God (a person is divided after a fall). Christianity (the beginning -Konets is a superposition), Judaism ((beginning -… Read more

  21. Belief in God, in contrast to rational evidence as recognizing the fact of existence, is determined to the rational need for this faith and in God, the adoption of a picture of the world with such value. An intellectual act to comprehend God in the sense of His adoption, to comprehend God as God, as His God, is clearly not enough. Faith is always deliberate.

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